2012 Intel E7 AMD opteron 6200 Shock

Hello again my good Internet readers.

I felt the urge for a post in regard to the current processor developments between Intel and AMD this year.

We have seen it all happen over the past 3 years with Intel and AMD battling it out in court over patents and more. One thing was learnt from this, that was that Intel are still pounding and bullying AMD over the patent share for x86 lol yea as silly as that sounds. For those that dont know Intel developed the x86 arch and for AMD to manufacture there chips they must work with Intel closely (maybe too close for comfort) on some sort of arrangement to allow them to make a x86 chip. Scary stuff aye.

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Well it turns out Intel want access to AMD’s patents, “holly guacamole” and Intel believe this totally fair because there allowed! primarily because there given the right to use x86. Now we got this out the way we can look deeper into current relations that are impacting us as the consumer and maybe answer why Intel want access to there latest patents.

Its 2012 and AMD have released what many say is a totally flopped processor yet no one has actually taken a closer look at the CPUspec sheets on these chips. Although the step up for more cores has not directly doubled performance it certainly did something.

In this article i will be comparing 2 socket(DP=Dual processor NOT double penetration as one reader a few years ago thought it was.) systems used in HPC workstations/servers.

The Intel E7-2870 @ 2.4ghz 10 core that includes hyperthreading.

AMD Opteron 6272 @2.1ghz 16 core

I used these chips as comparison because there both quad memory chips. all 5600 and core chips from Intel are only triple channel.

Now The AMD 6272 rolls out on the market @ ~£500.00/chip

Wait for it!

The Intel E7-2870 rolls out at ~£3800.00/chip

By taking a look at the CPUspec site we can see performance marks, totally ignoring the memory performance for a moment and just focus on the CPU mark the AMD scores 392 and 448 peek wow.

Intel scores nearly identical remember its 10 cores with 20 threads so thats 40 threads 20 cores scores 502 and 535 peek say what, thats about a 100 difference so does that mean they took that value and used it as a multiplier for the price.

As one can see this might be why Intel are giving AMD a hard time wanting to know how they did this, remember the AMD 6272is clocked @ 2.1ghz with a much lower TDP while Intel E7-2870 is a 2.4ghz and slightly higher TDP.

Now a price like that at nearly 8000 gbp is insane in comparison to 1000 gbp for a pair of AMD 6270’s with very little performance gap. Someone is ripping someone off here and it sure is not AMD. If you have read my previous article titled “Concerns with Intel processors” you will see that Intel is really not looking good. The future Intel marketing plan is very flawed.

So to all those people screaming how bad AMD is doing with there processors just take a quick look at this insanity. Sure Intel is faster not by much but by god they are so far apart on price its unreal.

I personally support AMD on there ideals all the way reason being is that every home, user, developer from all walks of life should be able to enjoy high performance computing at an affordable price. AMD are one of the only companies to provide this. Intel are due to release there new EFI or UEFI BIOS replacement which actually has built in network drivers that do not let you turn them off. This is a new initiative by Intel to allow for automatic updates and anti piracy software. There building into there processor a hardware based code block to stop software that has not got permission to use certain Intellectual Property rights to not execute. If that was not bad enough the UEFI allows this to be remotely updated over the Internet. Scary stuff, certainly enough to make alarm bells ring.Ill make another post as soon as i can compile the information together regarding Intel’s UEFI BIOS Replacement.

Could well be that HPC open free computing is going to cost you £8000.00 and closed locked dictatorship computing will be available at the £1000.00 price all curtsy of Intel. With this in mind one can only say God bless you AMD and keep up the good work. Freedom and innovation on Linux and other OS’s can really only survive with a free open platform(free as in free speech).

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Thanks for reading and keep yourselves wise to it, its about the only way you can stop them ripping you off or limiting your abilities.

understanding Linux is simple very simple

lol understanding Linux is simple very simple Linux comes from Linus, acronym of his name Linus Torvalds, simple.

“GNU = GNU is Not Unix”. Its a play on words that is very common in the opensource community e.g. PHP = PHP Hypertext Preprocessor.

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It is a very very powerful kernel, Ubuntu, debian, slackware etc are all packages on the Linux kernel with package managers providing install methods and all have different ways. i personally believe in the slax/gentoo way that is compile from source.
Package managers are nothing more than a way to distribute, Ubuntu is a debian distribution method that’s it. Linux is the platform eg. the kernel. that’s Linux nothing more yes this powerful kernel can run Xorg, kde, gnome and all these apps scripts languages and most of all the kernel comes with a built in gcc compiler. What is Linux? Well Nixie its a powerful kernel. if you refer to ubuntu as your distro then its called ubuntu Linux it builds on the same kernel every single Linux platform is built on, all that is different is packages are pre-compiled as a “deb” compressed format called a package manager.

Most old school Linux people like me install  downloading the source to your home folder and doing ./configure && make then make install similarly to building the kernel.
The slang a few years ago was ‘compiling it yourself was a small price to pay for free software and the most powerful operating system in the world’.
The fact Ubuntu precompiled and distributes Linux in this way is and as i can see is a god blessing for those who are starting out not knowing how to program, compile or even what a compiler is lol. not many people understand the concept of the compile options either.

Briefly, windows runs on a 386 enhanced model that means 386 not 486 or Pentium it means 386. ubuntu is on a 686 arch when you compile your own you can use sse 1 2 3 4 686, nocona, em64, amd64, ia32 and more depending on hardware of course. Ubuntu precompiled have problems here. Some people the 686 enhanced will not run well on there system hence you need to recompile your binarys to use it better.

In windows you would have to suffer no matter how hard you tried windows would still keep you stuck on using a 386 enhanced OS, only recently (16 years after the release of the Pentium processor) has Microsoft decided to compile windows with extra enhancements Vista = 486 OMG 486 of all progression of there software to 20 years since 486 machines have been used. I agree with many on this a level of backward compatibility is needed for he who has an older Pentium system windows needs to be able to run on that system as well. Windows is not open source as we know so it can only come out in one or two precompiled binary forms 32bit and 64 bit.

Freedom of the Linux kernel yup you guessed it Linux allows you to take the source code and compile it to your native hardware utilising every single core, thread, memory address, everything. In the most stable rock solid foundations ever because you compiled it native to your system. Thats why Linux is so stable. For those about to shout wait up i had this crash that crash etc. hey there software bugs or you may have tried to compile a 64bit on a 32bit or just not set compile options correctly to run it. In the case of Ubuntu it is pre-compiled to the average hardware spec meaning this could be at fault. There is also the area of faulty hardware, memory is a fatal cause of these kind of errors and certain kernel options required, if the kernel is compiled with bad options then the kernel can not access your hardware correctly causing faults like these.

A tip for new linux users check your Logs. If you use gnome you can navigate to Applications -> system tools -> Log file viewer.

Another tip to see all your logs as a user is navigate to:  System -> Preferences -> main menu and find the entry of the Log file viewer, once you have found it then place gksu in front of the command so it should look like this without the punctuation “gksu gnome-system-log”

Now it asks for your password and after this displays all system log files including the dbus if you have installed it. If you have not got Dbus i would advise you to go install it as all your error output when something goes wrong is int there. this allows you to trace a fault if ever you get one.

Look at the bright side at least with Linux you can fix it unlike windows you have to report it and wait for windows to send out a fix if they ever do that is.

So what is Linux The name game as you say its Linux = a Kernel, the distribution is exactly as its name its a method of distributing Linux packages making life that little bit easier in the Linux world and as Chris Perillo Will Linux ever be popular got so so wrong by suggesting war between packages, there is no war between vendors or open source projects there maybe a competition in some cases which is very healthy but no war. To answer this i ask you this, do you want to do anything everything whatever you want when you want in the way that you want to do it? If yes then Linux is for you. Its an operating system allowing fair trade of skills to be passed from one experienced programmer to another and then passed to a user who can report bugs back to the programmers to fix making the whole OS the most powerful OS ever made and you pay for it by just using it and contributing to that effort, its a form of trading without money. yet at the same time allows everyone the freedom to do what they want in the way they want.

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